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In our second “Oz” themed show, Carol de Giere speaks with Monica Hadley and Caroline Kilbourn about the making of Wizard of Oz Prequel “Wicked” and what she learned about the show’s composer through writing her book, Defying Gravity: the Creative Career of Stephen Schwartz from Godspell to Wicked. From writing Godspell’s score at age 23 through the making of the megahit Wicked, Stephen Schwartz has had an amazing career. For this first authorized biography, de Giere draws from 80 hours of interviews with Schwartz and over 100 interviews with his friends, family, and colleagues. In this Writers Voice podcast, de Giere gives examples from a series of “Creativity Notes” included in her book that offer insights from Stephen Schwartz about writing and the artistic life.

“In Defying Gravity, Carol de Giere pulls back the curtain and gives us a fascinating glimpse into the creative process of one of the musical theater’s greatest wizards.” — Stephen Flaherty, Tony-Award winning composer

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Monica Hadley is co-founder, host and producer of Writers' Voices on KRUU 100.1 fm in Fairfield, Iowa, a community low power radio station, and webmaster at

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